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VAST Ignition Control with MicroSquirt®

The Toyota VAST System

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Toyota's variable advance spark timing system (VAST) was used on a *bunch* of Toyota vehicles that use VAST. The MR2, Celica, Toyota pickup, and Toyota 4runner all use VAST (~1985-1993), including some 2SE, 22RE, 22RTE, 4VE and 4AGE engines.

VAST uses four main signals to control ignition timing:

VAST can be controlled with MicroSquirt® controllers by configuring the hardware and software appropriately.

Input

The Ne signal (crankshaft position and rpm) is the one you use for the tach trigger, and G is a cam sync signal (that we don't use - until the router board is available!). Ne is an alternating current signal, but it is converted to a square wave by the igniter on its way to the ECU.

To take the square wave Ne signal, you can use the 'Opto' input circuit.

The Hall input requires a 12 Volt pull up, so you must connect the input wire to the Hall sensor's output as well as to a 12V switched source through a 1K Ohm resistor (1/4 or 1/8 Watt):

The Ne signal wheel can have 4 or 24 teeth. 4 teeth should work fine for 4 cylinder engines. For 6 cylinder engines, a 24 tooth wheel would be necessary. With a 24 tooth wheel, two teeth need to be removed to simulate a 12-1 missing tooth crankshaft wheel, and V2.6+ MicroSquirt code used. For the missing tooth parameters, you need to set:

Parameter4 cyl.6 cyl.
Trigger wheel teeth1212
Missing teeth11
Skip teeth64
Delay teethdepends on set-up - see text

The delay teeth depends on the teeth you remove. they must be directly across from each other, and ideally you will arrange to have the pick-up sensor directly across from the first tooth after a missing tooth, in which case the delay tooth setting will be 0. See this page for more information.

Alternatively, with the 24 tooth wheel you can grind off:

IGf - the spark confirmation signal - can be left open and not connected. Do not allow it to short to anything, of course!

Without signals connected, the engine *should* start and run at its base timing (for the non-missing tooth configuration, at least). So that's the first step in installing the system, try and get it to start and idle with no timing connections, then see what happens to the timing as you add signals.

Output

The igniter starts the dwell when the signal from the ECU goes high, and fires the coil when the signal goes low. This mirrors the current flow through the coil, just like an HEI module. So the 'spark output' in MegaTune should be set to 'going high (inverted)' (this seems backwards, but the terminology derives from the beta days when there was an extra transistor in the circuit).

Note that 'Spark Output' needs to be tested to make sure it is correct. Test the coil to see if it is charging when the key is on but the engine isn't running. It should not be. The safest way to do this is to replace the coil with a LED tester (see #6 here: www.megamanual.com/ms2/V3trouble.htm) while checking for current at the coil (be sure to get the tester the right way around). Whichever setting does not have the coil charging in this circumstance is correct. This thread goes into more detail.

Wiring the Igniter

You connect Ampseal pin #12 (IGN-1) to IGt from the igniter. Then you connect the Ne line from the igniter to Ampseal pin #30 (OPTOIN+). Check your service manual to see which wires these are on your vehicle.

Note: When you connect pin 12 to IGt pin on the igniter, you might the tach on the dash jumps erratically, the car misfires, sometimes timing will stay at 10ยบ BTDC, and sometimes it will advance to 30° BTDC, no matter what you set in the timing menu in MegaTune. in these circumstances, the engine will misfire and skip cylinders. In this case, as soon as you disconnect the IGt wire, the engine *should* run fine and the tach on the dash should be normal (but without MicroSquirt® controlling the timing, of course!).

The problem is most likely that the controller was pulling the signal down too low for the igniter to properly read it. A simple fix, add an in-line resistor to the wire going from MicroSquirt® pin #9 to IGt to prevent it from pulling the IGt signal down too far. Start with 1K Ohms (¼ Watt, or even less, is fine). If the resistance is too low, the problem will remain, if the resistance is too high MicroSquirt® won't be able to trigger the igniter. You may have to experiment with differing resistances to find a value that works for your installation.

Ignition Settings for TunerStudioMS

Parameter
Value
Ignition Input CaptureRising Edge

('Falling Edge' for MicroSquirt® if using the VR input circuit)

Cranking triggerTrigger Rise
Coil Charging SchemeStandard Coil Charge
Spark OutputGoing Low (Normal)

For dwell settings, set the maximum dwell duration to 3.0, then adjust it with the car running and idling. Lower the dwell period in 0.1 millisecond steps, being sure to blip the throttle between each change. If the idles smoothly, and accelerates cleanly, reduce the dwell another 0.1 and test again. Repeat until the dwell causes a stumble, then increase it by 0.2 milliseconds. Test drive the vehicle to make sure the engine does not stumble do to ignition issues under any conditions.

Note that in some cases you may have stumbles even at 3.0 milliseconds. In those cases, increase the dwell by 0.1 at a time until the stumbles are gone, then increase it another 0.2 milliseconds.

Controlling Your TVIS with Your MicroSquirt® Controller

Toyota Variable Intake System (TVIS) is an extra set of butterflies that close off one of the intake ports below 4500 rpm to increase air flow and fuel atomization. They are operated by manifold vacuum, which in turn is controlled by an electrical signal from the ECU.

For MicroSquirt® units with firmware version 2.3 or later you don't need to modify any circuits to use TVIS. You use the FIDLE output on pin 30. See the spare outputs page for more information on the spare outputs. You can set the FIdle port (PM2) to ground Ampseal pin 7 to activate the relay based on an rpm and MAP (or coolant temperature, etc.). You could use this with the relay board and use the FIDLE relay itself as your TVIS relay.

Toyota Temperature Sensor Information

Your MicroSquirt® controller allows you to recalibrate the temperature sensors under 'Tools/Calibrate Thermistor Tables'. The info you will need is:

Coolant Temperature

Bias resistor value:2490
TemperatureResistance
32°F5750
66°F2830
212°F200

Intake Air Temperature

Bias resistor value:2490
TemperatureResistance
4°F15000
68°F2500
140°F550

Other VAST Information

Here are some of the links that were used to gather the info in this document:



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